Talk: Demos Traxen

Hello,

I appreciate your attempts to make Wookieepedia better and more comprehensive. I noticed that you keep changing information in this article. If you have a link to the website where John Jackson Miller states that Force lightning was used, please post it on my talkpage so that I can make the appropriate corrections to the article. Otherwise, it will continually be reverted to the way it was when it passed Featured Article Nominations. Thanks,—Tommy 01:51, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

• Tommy's request was perfectly reasonable—your uncivil response was unwarranted. Please try to not resort to such a tone with editors in the future over such a simple request. Thanks. -- Ozzel 21:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

• Please don't remove messages from your talk page; you may archive them on a subpage, but they should not be removed. Thank you. Atarumaster88 17:31, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

• Here is the image you requested. Xicer9 17:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Quite simply, it's because it's the nominator's decision. Moreover, I see absolutely none of your reasoning as to how you distinguish Chopper as the one who "decided they needed to help them". Chopper is clearly acting contemptuously toward the crippled refugee, and also, there's zero evidence that says it was the son who helped him. Your wording is biased, as we don't know if the clones "were forced to kill the droids", and you're putting their feelings into it when there's absolutely no evidence to suggest them. If you can provide accurate, clear reasoning, I'll change it back, but until then, I would like to ask you to cease your actions. CC7567 22:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

• I'd just like to clarify that while I've accepted that Chopper handed the crippled refugee the droid leg, nothing else has enough evidence to be confirmed. Thank you for your time. CC7567 23:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
• I don't want to ever see this again or you'll be blocked. You're bordering close to WP:NPA there, and I don't like your tone. Don't give CC a hard time; he knows what he's doing. Chack Jadson 01:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Please do not remove sourced content from Wookieepedia's articles, much less the site's Featured and Good articles. I refer to your unwarranted removal of information from the Nevar article, which, as you can see, has been promptly reverted by an administrator. If you continue to remove sourced content from articles following this warning, your actions will be construed as being in violation of our Vandalism policy, and you will be blocked from editing. Thank you for your cooperation. Toprawa and Ralltiir 16:52, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

• I was only removing information that - within the span of a three paragraph article - had been repeated three times in almost identical phrasing.--Demos Traxen 20:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Please let QuiGonJinn handle the update for "Landing at Point Rain," as he's the one who's currently nominating the article for Featured status. This isn't the first time you've been asked to do this. While your efforts are appreciated, it is best to let the nominator handle all updates for an article either currently undergoing the nomination process for or already possessing higher status, as all other edits will most likely detract from the article's quality. Thank you. CC7567 04:46, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

• It's just hard to have to look at things like this. What you're essentially saying is that one person's contributions are more important and better than another's - that my contributions will "detract from the article's quality". It's rude and disingenuous. If QuiGonJinn is working on the article, so be it, but the episode aired tonight, and there were no edits. Therefore, instead of "detracting" from the quality of the article, perhaps my edit should be seen as an effort to keep it updated, or even to get the work started for a "better" contributor.--Demos Traxen 06:56, November 5, 2009 (UTC)

No problem, Demos.--Jedi Kasra (comlink) 13:05, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Demos Traxen, nice to see another alien lover on the Wook! I think you are misreading the map on p. 17 of Star Wars: The Essential Atlas. The legend says that "Population is measured by average per inhabited planet per sector, with actual populations for key systems." The fact that Florn appears on the map makes it one of these "key systems," and, thus, the green dot represents the system, not the sector (it's unfortunate that the legend uses "planet" in one instance and "system' in another, but c'est la vie). Also, I'm sorry you found my sentence "poorly worded," but it's probably best to try not to insult other users' writing abilities in edit summaries. I'm not trying to be confrontational, but it seemed like you made it personal for some reason in that summary. Other than that, take a look at Wookieepedia:WookieeProject Aliens and join up if you'd like. If you're taking a crack at Alien Encounters, we could definitely use your help! ~ SavageBob 01:20, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

• No worries; everything comes off a couple of shades more negatively in plain text. As for humanocentricism (anthropocentrism?), it's kind of part and parcel of Star Wars.Star Wars is rooted in old film serials from the '30s and '40s, what with their depictions of "primitive heathens" trying to eat the Great White Hunter, the Yellow Peril trying to kidnap the blonde damsel-in-distress, and on. It's understandable, then, that that pulp view of the "civilized West" (Core?) vs. the rest of the world rears up in the Galaxy Far, Far Away. I try to avoid this mindset in my own articles (by trying to avoid describing species as "primitive" and not describing certain species as having "been discovered" at such and such a time), but it's sometimes difficult to do given that the source material so often takes that tact. I guess this is a long way around to saying that, yeah, it's there, but since this isn't the real world, and we ain't really xenoanthropologists, there's only so much we can do to avoid it. :) ~ SavageBob 05:03, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

The intro should only contain what the writer deems aboslutely necessary to give the reader the most basic understanding of the article's subject. The length is up to whoever writes it. Overall, intros should not be excessively long but at the same time not a couple of sentences mashed together with random bits of information, depending on the amount of information available. CC7567 23:50, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked for two hours due to personal attacks. Work on your communication skills. --Imperialles 23:13, April 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, DT. Good work on expanding Kobok, an article that's been on my own back burner for a while. I'm guessing most of that info comes from Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, but don't neglect to add sources as you work. If you need some pointers on how to do sourcing, I'd be happy to oblige. Trunsk is an example of what I'm talking about, all the footnotes and whatnot. Keep up the good work on the articles. ~ SavageBob 04:12, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

• Yeah, I've been interested in the species for awhile, so I went ahead and...ahem... procured Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds. I'd love some help with sourcing. I haven't quite been able to get the hang of it since joining the site, so even when I write an article as large (or larger) than Kobok, I've left the sourcing for others to do later. I hope that doesn't come off as lazy - I'd just rather someone with more experience do it right than end up screwing it up myself. That said, I'd love to learn more about it.--Demos Traxen 16:22, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for fixing a few of my more egregious boo-boos on the Act on Instinct articles. I noticed that you had done quite a fair amount of work on some of beforehand—I apologize if it looks as though I just callously ran roughshod over your work, it's just that I was trying to get those articles up to an FA standard, and it's my usual practice to write absolutely everything on a topic that I tackle from scratch. However, a lot of the existing levels of detail were really good, although some of the content was a bit too broad for the character articles, but I was just wondering if you would at all entertain the idea of writing up something else and taking one of these articles through the featured article process by yourself? Since I covered a lot of the AOI content simultaneously (again, I apologize, it was part of a small experiment I was conducting,) I was thinking that you might like to have a go at the Battle of Ukio (Clone Wars) article? Forgive me if this sounds a little presumptuous, but I noted that you seem to have an interest in the material, and since we're always looking for new FA writers, I thought I might as well ask. If you decide that you would like to do that, but you feel a bit daunted by the overall process, I would be more than willing to lend a hand. Thefourdotelipsis 07:49, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

• I'd love to take a look at it. I'll admit that I was bewildered at first by the explosion of edits to the AOI articles on my watchlist, but I had to remind myself that we're working together, not trying to one-up anyone. So I appreciate your work on the articles as well, and I hope I had laid good groundwork for you. I definitely had been too broad with Keelyvine and Doctor. As I said, I'd love to take a stab at the Battle of Ukio article. Obviously it needs expanding, but is there anything in particular you've noticed that needs work?--Demos Traxen 01:01, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, DT. I noticed you recently expanded Kobok quite a bit. Is that the rest of the information from my notes page? It looks like with a lead expansion and some cleanup, the article is pretty much done, so nice work. ~ SavageBob 23:02, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

• It is indeed! And thanks! I had been putting it off for too long - I had written the entire thing, and really only needed to iron out the sourcing. I agree that the lead-in needs expanding, and I'll totally take that on if you don't mind. I'd love any additional sourcing or clean up that you have in mind, so please go ahead with that.--Demos Traxen 01:55, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

While your Valsedian Operation updates to articles like Ganch, Keelyvine Reus, and Sanya are appreciated, please note that all three of them are either current FAs or current FA nominations, which means that they must adhere to all of Wookieepedia's policies—namely, the sourcing policy and the unofficial but widespread linking clause, the latter of which means that all articles must be linked only once in the infobox, intro, and body of an article. Regardless of the editor, all edits to promoted articles that do not adhere to Wookieepedia policy run the risk of being reverted, as the quality of the articles—even without immediate updates—must be maintained. Therefore, please take the time to go back through your edits and fix these issues to ensure that the FAs and FANs maintain their level of quality and do not have to undergo any sort of probation. By saying this, I'm not trying to discourage you from editing promoted articles, but to help you be as meticulous as you can when making additions to them. Thank you. CC7567 07:32, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Demos, I noticed you reported a problem on an offensive page that was just created; in such an instance as that particular one, it is actually more helpful to add the {{Delete}} template to the article, so that administrators are notified right away to delete the article. Thanks! Jonjedigrandmaster 18:00, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, DT. Hope all's well! I've currently got three noms up at WP:FAN, but as soon as one of them passes, I'm planning to nominate one from my queue. Among these is Kobok, which, in my opinion, is ready for prime time. Did you have any other plans for the article? Did you want to nominate it yourself? If not, I'll likely nominate it myself in the next few weeks, but I wanted to run it by you first. Let me know; I'm happy as long as one of us takes it through the process. :) ~ 17:55, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

• I had thought you might be building up to that! I saw some redlinks disappear and some expansion going on there lately. It looks good! Definitely go for it, and you'll have my vote.--Demos Traxen 19:06, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. It seems that somehow an abuse filter was triggered, but I'm not sure why because it's supposed to only affect users with edit counts of under 50. It might be that one of the required fields on the image form may have gotten unfilled, but I'm not sure exactly what the problem is here. I would recommend asking more tech-savvy admins like Grunny or Darth Culator to see what's wrong. Hope that helps. CC7567 00:41, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Hi. First off, great job on the edit for Trachta's article. That being said, I was wondering if you could expand Tohm's artice, as its really underfocused, especially when he's a major character and all that, as well as when you're going to do it if you're planning to do so.If it isn't too much to ask, I'd also appreciate it if you could do the same for the other characters in the Ghost Prison arc, both major and minor, that have appeared so far. I was only able to edit some from the most minimal details I could find that wasn't the comic. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 03:46, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

• I'll definitely be working on Tohm at some point, though I hadn't really planned on it this week. Now that some of his past has been revealed, it makes it more enticing, so it should be pretty soon however. Gentis is another interesting character, but the rest of them seem to all be unnamed for now. Time will tell, but then again, I'm still working through people from Star Wars: Jedi—The Dark Side and Dark Times.--Demos Traxen () 16:05, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, EJ did it for you. Thanks Winterz (talk) 04:23, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

• Okay... then... --Demos Traxen () 04:58, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Both of you are coming close to breaking the three-revert rule, which is a blockable offense. If you have an issue with another user's edit, the proper thing to do is go directly to the user's talk page and talk to him/her instead of continuing to revert, as you did before coming to me. Non-canon sections are acceptable in mainspace articles, though they usually go in the Bts. Next time, please talk to the user before reverting—the administration should only need to get involved if the users cannot resolve the conflict themselves. CC7567 17:57, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Is spelled like this. Just wanted to make a note of that for your user page. Keep up the good work, man! :D (it's okay, I mispell a lot of thingz two) --Aryn Tarra (talk) 19:54, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I was planning on getting to it eventually but haven't had the time recently. CC7567 18:47, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

• Hey Demos! I might be a bit premature on this --- for all I know, you're planning to get to them this weekend --- but hopefully you can address CC's objections soon; if they're not addressed within the next week, the nom will be eligible for removal. Good luck! Menkooroo (talk) 12:02, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Demos, I believe I have taken care of your objective to the article.—Jedi Kasra 20:22, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

• I know you have supported, but I was wondering if you could strike that objection to the article? Thanks once again.—Jedi Kasra 20:21, January 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yep. You're probably right. I don't know what I was thinking when I made that edit. :S Rokkur Shen (talk) 06:16, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Demos, could you also strike your objection to the article? Thanks in advance.—Jedi Kasra 06:22, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Demos Traxen. I think there is no reason for you to keep removing the character's species. According to the Essential Atlas, 99% of the Naboo population are Gungans and Humans (Naboo). Furthermore, it's pretty obvious that "Dashé" is a Naboo name, not Gungan (like Padmé, Sabé, etc.). It is true that her species hasn't been mentioned in the article, but if we follow your logic, Alderaanian Trevor Insevade shouldn't be considered Human either, even though the population of Alderaan is mostly comprised of Humans. Thank you in advance for your answer. --LennyF (talk) 17:15, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

• I understand your objection, and as likely as it is that she's a Human, it's speculation, and therefore not permissible on this Wiki. She could be a Rodian, for all we know. And you're right, Trevor's article should also be changed to reflect that.--Demos Traxen () 17:36, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure, Demos Traxen. ;-) Initially, I just wanted to re-upload one image—that of the RX-Series pilot droid named Z-37. However, I noticed that one of our FAs was full of images from that same comic, so I just went on roll and reuploaded everything about CT-7719. ^^ --LelalMekha (talk) 15:23, August 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, DT. Sorry I missed the boat on your Ribba nomination at CAN. I was in the midst of finals hell when you messaged me. My apologies! You're more than welcome to notify me if you nominate stuff in the future, though! ~Savage 14:47, December 20, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, since you've done big work on the Dairoki article, why don't you help me with the Dark Side section of Xanatos' own article? It's pretty much messed up. I had to rewrite other sections, especially the ones with info from the Jedi Apprentice books. Please tell me you're free to check it out. I can't keep this up forever! Lord KOT (talk) 00:00, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

Wow are my edits incorrect exactly? Female Hermaphrodite makes no sense, hermaphrodites are both male and female, so that is an incorrect statement. --Ghrd224 (talk) 05:27, February 11, 2014 (UTC)