Despite his presence on the Council, Defels remained oppressed throughout the Imperial Remnant. Za was also a puppet of Norym Kim and was paid by Kim to nominate Xandel Carivus to become the Council's new leader. This plan had negative effects when Carivus expelled and imprisoned the nonhuman members of the council after becoming the head of the council.
Following Carivus' death, he was taken into New Republic custody.